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> <channel><title>Comments on: Public Schools as Re-Education Camps: Texas State Board of Indoctrination</title> <atom:link href="http://www.dogcanyon.org/2010/03/13/public-schools-as-re-education-camps-texas-state-board-of-indoctrination/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.dogcanyon.org/2010/03/13/public-schools-as-re-education-camps-texas-state-board-of-indoctrination/</link> <description>Politics, Opinion and Culture, for Texas and Beyond</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:17:20 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=abc</generator> <item><title>By: Mary McCurnin</title><link>http://www.dogcanyon.org/2010/03/13/public-schools-as-re-education-camps-texas-state-board-of-indoctrination/comment-page-1/#comment-2266</link> <dc:creator>Mary McCurnin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:50:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dogcanyon.org/?p=4916#comment-2266</guid> <description>A handful of wingnut Xtians have just compromised the texts of schools across the country. WTF?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A handful of wingnut Xtians have just compromised the texts of schools across the country. WTF?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: When First Unto This Country &#124; Dog Canyon</title><link>http://www.dogcanyon.org/2010/03/13/public-schools-as-re-education-camps-texas-state-board-of-indoctrination/comment-page-1/#comment-2263</link> <dc:creator>When First Unto This Country &#124; Dog Canyon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 06:03:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dogcanyon.org/?p=4916#comment-2263</guid> <description>[...] Schoolbooks are being rewritten to redeem Joseph McCarthy, make of Phyllis Schlafly something like an authoritarian madonna, and turn the Separations Clause into a guarantor of theocracy. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Schoolbooks are being rewritten to redeem Joseph McCarthy, make of Phyllis Schlafly something like an authoritarian madonna, and turn the Separations Clause into a guarantor of theocracy. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: J. Walkup</title><link>http://www.dogcanyon.org/2010/03/13/public-schools-as-re-education-camps-texas-state-board-of-indoctrination/comment-page-1/#comment-2262</link> <dc:creator>J. Walkup</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:12:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dogcanyon.org/?p=4916#comment-2262</guid> <description>Very good post, Glenn, and the comments are good as well.  &quot;Intelligent design&quot; is certainly a misnomer, isn&#039;t it?  I would like to know what qualifications Andrew Schlafly has to rewrite the Bible.  Personally, I think churches should pay taxes the same as other businesses.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good post, Glenn, and the comments are good as well.  &#8220;Intelligent design&#8221; is certainly a misnomer, isn&#8217;t it?  I would like to know what qualifications Andrew Schlafly has to rewrite the Bible.  Personally, I think churches should pay taxes the same as other businesses.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Glenn W. Smith</title><link>http://www.dogcanyon.org/2010/03/13/public-schools-as-re-education-camps-texas-state-board-of-indoctrination/comment-page-1/#comment-2260</link> <dc:creator>Glenn W. Smith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:30:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dogcanyon.org/?p=4916#comment-2260</guid> <description>The heroes of Dover! We need a lot more like them, don&#039;t we?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The heroes of Dover! We need a lot more like them, don&#8217;t we?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: When First Unto This Country &#124; NEWS Gate</title><link>http://www.dogcanyon.org/2010/03/13/public-schools-as-re-education-camps-texas-state-board-of-indoctrination/comment-page-1/#comment-2259</link> <dc:creator>When First Unto This Country &#124; NEWS Gate</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:34:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dogcanyon.org/?p=4916#comment-2259</guid> <description>[...] Schoolbooks are being rewritten to redeem Joseph McCarthy, make of Phyllis Schlafly something like an authoritarian madonna, and turn the Separations Clause into a guarantor of theocracy. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Schoolbooks are being rewritten to redeem Joseph McCarthy, make of Phyllis Schlafly something like an authoritarian madonna, and turn the Separations Clause into a guarantor of theocracy. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Annie</title><link>http://www.dogcanyon.org/2010/03/13/public-schools-as-re-education-camps-texas-state-board-of-indoctrination/comment-page-1/#comment-2258</link> <dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:23:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dogcanyon.org/?p=4916#comment-2258</guid> <description>Terrific post, Glenn. I&#039;ve been following this story for a while. What makes it all-the-more troubling is that school textbooks are not exactly beacons of truth as they stand. They already offer bowdlerized versions of US and World history. Those of us who care about education rely on the increasingly underpaid and vilified public school teachers to supplement the textbooks. Of course, if teachers offer counter examples, they run the risk of incurring the wrath of the parents and school boards. My heroes are the Dover, PA, teachers who stood up to the school board&#039;s requirement that they teach intelligent design.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific post, Glenn. I&#8217;ve been following this story for a while. What makes it all-the-more troubling is that school textbooks are not exactly beacons of truth as they stand. They already offer bowdlerized versions of US and World history. Those of us who care about education rely on the increasingly underpaid and vilified public school teachers to supplement the textbooks. Of course, if teachers offer counter examples, they run the risk of incurring the wrath of the parents and school boards. My heroes are the Dover, PA, teachers who stood up to the school board&#8217;s requirement that they teach intelligent design.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Glenn W. Smith</title><link>http://www.dogcanyon.org/2010/03/13/public-schools-as-re-education-camps-texas-state-board-of-indoctrination/comment-page-1/#comment-2256</link> <dc:creator>Glenn W. Smith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:33:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dogcanyon.org/?p=4916#comment-2256</guid> <description>You are right about the protection of belief. Thanks for clarifying that, David.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right about the protection of belief. Thanks for clarifying that, David.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Derek</title><link>http://www.dogcanyon.org/2010/03/13/public-schools-as-re-education-camps-texas-state-board-of-indoctrination/comment-page-1/#comment-2255</link> <dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:18:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dogcanyon.org/?p=4916#comment-2255</guid> <description>The Texas SBOE certainly can be proud of their results. Where is Texas ranked now in educating it&#039;s young people? Are we 50th or have we shot up to 49th yet?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Texas SBOE certainly can be proud of their results. Where is Texas ranked now in educating it&#8217;s young people? Are we 50th or have we shot up to 49th yet?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David Kaib</title><link>http://www.dogcanyon.org/2010/03/13/public-schools-as-re-education-camps-texas-state-board-of-indoctrination/comment-page-1/#comment-2253</link> <dc:creator>David Kaib</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:33:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dogcanyon.org/?p=4916#comment-2253</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I know the David Bradleys of the world claim that the First Amendment is intended to protect religion from government, and not our democratic government from the doctrinaire teachings of any particular religion. That’s backwards, of course. The SBOE’s actions prove the wisdom of the Founders. Left to their own devices, religious zealots will seek to impose their views on the rest of us. The First Amendment is intended to prohibit exactly that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I think this is a bit of a false choice.  The bar against establishment is for protecting both democracy and belief.  Government (or politicians) should be denied the opportunity to use religion for political purposes - including designated some people second class persons on the basis of their religious beliefs.  Religion is supposed to be a matter of faith - not coercion. Therefore, religious persons should be denied the opportunity to use government to impose their views.Of course, the idea that the Constitution creates some religious test, or rests on religious authority, or allows people to use government to impose religious orthodoxy is unmitigated nonsense. In addition to the First Amendment, the Test Oath clause, the Preamble, and Section One of the Fourteenth Amendment all make that clear.You are right to confront such claims with a quote. In the words of Frank the Tank - this is how you do it, this is how you debate. The words of the Constitution will not settle all disputes, but they do show how many particular claims are untenable.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I know the David Bradleys of the world claim that the First Amendment is intended to protect religion from government, and not our democratic government from the doctrinaire teachings of any particular religion. That’s backwards, of course. The SBOE’s actions prove the wisdom of the Founders. Left to their own devices, religious zealots will seek to impose their views on the rest of us. The First Amendment is intended to prohibit exactly that.</p></blockquote><p>I think this is a bit of a false choice.  The bar against establishment is for protecting both democracy and belief.  Government (or politicians) should be denied the opportunity to use religion for political purposes &#8211; including designated some people second class persons on the basis of their religious beliefs.  Religion is supposed to be a matter of faith &#8211; not coercion. Therefore, religious persons should be denied the opportunity to use government to impose their views.</p><p>Of course, the idea that the Constitution creates some religious test, or rests on religious authority, or allows people to use government to impose religious orthodoxy is unmitigated nonsense. In addition to the First Amendment, the Test Oath clause, the Preamble, and Section One of the Fourteenth Amendment all make that clear.</p><p>You are right to confront such claims with a quote. In the words of Frank the Tank &#8211; this is how you do it, this is how you debate. The words of the Constitution will not settle all disputes, but they do show how many particular claims are untenable.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Glenn W. Smith</title><link>http://www.dogcanyon.org/2010/03/13/public-schools-as-re-education-camps-texas-state-board-of-indoctrination/comment-page-1/#comment-2250</link> <dc:creator>Glenn W. Smith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:58:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dogcanyon.org/?p=4916#comment-2250</guid> <description>You&#039;re up too late! Thanks for stopping by. We&#039;ll pay our taxes, and run the rascals off as well.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re up too late! Thanks for stopping by. We&#8217;ll pay our taxes, and run the rascals off as well.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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